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	<title>Comments on: 1970s nightmares part 1: seeing Sting &amp; The Police unannounced at a punk gig</title>
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		<title>By: mistertrippy</title>
		<link>http://stewarthomesociety.org/blog/archives/2153/comment-page-1#comment-4194</link>
		<dc:creator>mistertrippy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Jul 2009 23:48:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Tony, the Music Machine did have a really high stage - it closed when they made that disco film around it also called Music Machine, which I should track down again, I used to have it on VHS. They got Patti Boulaye and it&#039;s a really low rent Camden based Saturday Night Fever rip-off, which makes it better than that John Travolting any day! When it reopened it was the Camden Palace. Not sure about the other stuff.... Was the Slits/Subway Sect/Cognoscenti gig covered in the music press at the time? The Music Machine opened in 1977, so like you suggest it may well have been for the launch.....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Tony, the Music Machine did have a really high stage &#8211; it closed when they made that disco film around it also called Music Machine, which I should track down again, I used to have it on VHS. They got Patti Boulaye and it&#8217;s a really low rent Camden based Saturday Night Fever rip-off, which makes it better than that John Travolting any day! When it reopened it was the Camden Palace. Not sure about the other stuff&#8230;. Was the Slits/Subway Sect/Cognoscenti gig covered in the music press at the time? The Music Machine opened in 1977, so like you suggest it may well have been for the launch&#8230;..</p>
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		<title>By: Tony D</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tony D</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Jul 2009 23:38:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The “Cognoscenti&quot; thing at the Music Machine - wasn&#039;t that the opening night? And wasn&#039;t the place called Cognoscenti or something similar for the first few gigs, and had a really high stage?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The “Cognoscenti&#8221; thing at the Music Machine &#8211; wasn&#8217;t that the opening night? And wasn&#8217;t the place called Cognoscenti or something similar for the first few gigs, and had a really high stage?</p>
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		<title>By: mistertrippy</title>
		<link>http://stewarthomesociety.org/blog/archives/2153/comment-page-1#comment-4143</link>
		<dc:creator>mistertrippy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Jul 2009 21:37:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dr Phibes - I remember The Prefects and The Worst and Vincent Price too! Rob Lloyd of The Prefects was my postie for a while, he was doing the rounds in Bethnal Green in the late nineties, early part of this century. Seemed a nice chap, and Swells always said he said about me that I was a friendly face on the round... I always loved &quot;Going Through The Motions&quot;.... And of course I&#039;ve run into most of The Nightingales on my travels to places like Wolverhampton to take part in punk conferences....

My memories of The Worst are a little vague these days....  I can&#039;t recall ever seeing The Worst, although I know they made it to London for a handful of gigs - I never went to any punk shows in Manchester... I saw a lot of Manchester bands in London from Buzzcocks, Magazine, Slaughter &amp; The Dogs down through The Drones, V2, Passage, Fall, Joy Division, Manicured Noise etc. but if I saw The Worst it could only have been as a support act but I don&#039;t know.... Probably I didn&#039;t see them and they didn&#039;t make records...

Raymond, as you no doubt know, I love power pop and think mod clobber is so much better than punk threads...  And life was just as confusing for me as a teenager, a schizo split between seeing punk bands live but liking old soul records and having a load of those with me at school really into the northern scene. They&#039;d go to Wigan and would try to get me to go with them, but I didn&#039;t understand why they&#039;d go all that way to hear records, so I blew my chance to go the Casino and regret that now....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dr Phibes &#8211; I remember The Prefects and The Worst and Vincent Price too! Rob Lloyd of The Prefects was my postie for a while, he was doing the rounds in Bethnal Green in the late nineties, early part of this century. Seemed a nice chap, and Swells always said he said about me that I was a friendly face on the round&#8230; I always loved &#8220;Going Through The Motions&#8221;&#8230;. And of course I&#8217;ve run into most of The Nightingales on my travels to places like Wolverhampton to take part in punk conferences&#8230;.</p>
<p>My memories of The Worst are a little vague these days&#8230;.  I can&#8217;t recall ever seeing The Worst, although I know they made it to London for a handful of gigs &#8211; I never went to any punk shows in Manchester&#8230; I saw a lot of Manchester bands in London from Buzzcocks, Magazine, Slaughter &#038; The Dogs down through The Drones, V2, Passage, Fall, Joy Division, Manicured Noise etc. but if I saw The Worst it could only have been as a support act but I don&#8217;t know&#8230;. Probably I didn&#8217;t see them and they didn&#8217;t make records&#8230;</p>
<p>Raymond, as you no doubt know, I love power pop and think mod clobber is so much better than punk threads&#8230;  And life was just as confusing for me as a teenager, a schizo split between seeing punk bands live but liking old soul records and having a load of those with me at school really into the northern scene. They&#8217;d go to Wigan and would try to get me to go with them, but I didn&#8217;t understand why they&#8217;d go all that way to hear records, so I blew my chance to go the Casino and regret that now&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: raymond anderson</title>
		<link>http://stewarthomesociety.org/blog/archives/2153/comment-page-1#comment-4142</link>
		<dc:creator>raymond anderson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Jul 2009 20:37:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nothing against the Mod revival, I got a second hand Hardy Amis suit as soon as I could. It all merged with the schizo Northern Soul/Punk life I led. What can a poor boy do?
Much of that scene was an extension of the powerpop that was all over the small record shops before punk broke. All those early 70s characters unleashed by the career opportunity of Punk. The Bam Balam period lets say.

The England&#039;s Glory confusion, its like when I went looking for those hippies Bulldog Breed who sang about Austin Spare and kept finding some skinhead band.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nothing against the Mod revival, I got a second hand Hardy Amis suit as soon as I could. It all merged with the schizo Northern Soul/Punk life I led. What can a poor boy do?<br />
Much of that scene was an extension of the powerpop that was all over the small record shops before punk broke. All those early 70s characters unleashed by the career opportunity of Punk. The Bam Balam period lets say.</p>
<p>The England&#8217;s Glory confusion, its like when I went looking for those hippies Bulldog Breed who sang about Austin Spare and kept finding some skinhead band.</p>
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		<title>By: Dr Anton Phibes (Dec.)</title>
		<link>http://stewarthomesociety.org/blog/archives/2153/comment-page-1#comment-4131</link>
		<dc:creator>Dr Anton Phibes (Dec.)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Jul 2009 12:07:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think your memory of the set up is probably more accurate than mine! Attendance at an event is obviously no advantage.

The Bernie Rhodes incident sounds about right, and certainly true to form... but I have absolutely no memory of it happening at all. Your account also explains why I knew who&#039;d be playing - hadn&#039;t realised the answer was so simple. Still remember the muttering about a Sex Pistols secret gig though, but whether that is as dubious as my other recollections... who knows? I certainly wouldn&#039;t have been at all keen on seeing The Clash, as I was finding them pretty dull fare by that point. Think the Rainbow gig had already taken place by that time, and I&#039;d hated that.

And while I&#039;m travelling down my (unreliably sign-posted) memory lane, do you remember The Prefects and The Worst? Two apparently long forgotten support acts I loved.

Geldof was always a creep. I remember a visit by the London Constabulary to a well-known Notting Hill punk record shop as the result, we were told, of fearless radical Bob contacting them to complain about the selling of a few copies his bloody awful debut album in advance of its release date. He should have been arrested himself for foisting that pile of ordure on the general public.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think your memory of the set up is probably more accurate than mine! Attendance at an event is obviously no advantage.</p>
<p>The Bernie Rhodes incident sounds about right, and certainly true to form&#8230; but I have absolutely no memory of it happening at all. Your account also explains why I knew who&#8217;d be playing &#8211; hadn&#8217;t realised the answer was so simple. Still remember the muttering about a Sex Pistols secret gig though, but whether that is as dubious as my other recollections&#8230; who knows? I certainly wouldn&#8217;t have been at all keen on seeing The Clash, as I was finding them pretty dull fare by that point. Think the Rainbow gig had already taken place by that time, and I&#8217;d hated that.</p>
<p>And while I&#8217;m travelling down my (unreliably sign-posted) memory lane, do you remember The Prefects and The Worst? Two apparently long forgotten support acts I loved.</p>
<p>Geldof was always a creep. I remember a visit by the London Constabulary to a well-known Notting Hill punk record shop as the result, we were told, of fearless radical Bob contacting them to complain about the selling of a few copies his bloody awful debut album in advance of its release date. He should have been arrested himself for foisting that pile of ordure on the general public.</p>
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		<title>By: mistertrippy</title>
		<link>http://stewarthomesociety.org/blog/archives/2153/comment-page-1#comment-4130</link>
		<dc:creator>mistertrippy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Jul 2009 11:09:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Dr Phibes, I remember that &quot;Cognoscenti &quot; scam a little different from you, but since you went and I stayed away, I guess you are more likely to be right. However, my recollection is that Subway Sect and The Slits were advertised with &quot;The Cognoscenti&quot; listed at the bottom of the bill... So everyone thought The Clash were doing a secret gig (or at least my mates thought it was a secret Clash gig, others may have imagined they were going to see The Sex Pistols)... but I thought it was a Bernie Rhodes scam, so I didn&#039;t go. At the end of the night Bernie Rhodes or whoever came on stage and announced to the audience: &quot;You are the Cognoscenti!&quot; But it sounds like I missed a good gig. I also managed to avoid the Boomtown Rats. I was on my way to see them once but I ran into a friend on the way and she suggested we go and see an act with more credibility (Rezillos I think) - I took her up on her very sensible suggestion and am grateful she saved me from a shit night out... I was easily swayed coz she was much better looking that any of the guys I was with, who stupidly went and saw Geldoff rather than follow the sage advice of a teenage punkette!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Dr Phibes, I remember that &#8220;Cognoscenti &#8221; scam a little different from you, but since you went and I stayed away, I guess you are more likely to be right. However, my recollection is that Subway Sect and The Slits were advertised with &#8220;The Cognoscenti&#8221; listed at the bottom of the bill&#8230; So everyone thought The Clash were doing a secret gig (or at least my mates thought it was a secret Clash gig, others may have imagined they were going to see The Sex Pistols)&#8230; but I thought it was a Bernie Rhodes scam, so I didn&#8217;t go. At the end of the night Bernie Rhodes or whoever came on stage and announced to the audience: &#8220;You are the Cognoscenti!&#8221; But it sounds like I missed a good gig. I also managed to avoid the Boomtown Rats. I was on my way to see them once but I ran into a friend on the way and she suggested we go and see an act with more credibility (Rezillos I think) &#8211; I took her up on her very sensible suggestion and am grateful she saved me from a shit night out&#8230; I was easily swayed coz she was much better looking that any of the guys I was with, who stupidly went and saw Geldoff rather than follow the sage advice of a teenage punkette!</p>
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		<title>By: Dr Anton Phibes (Dec.)</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dr Anton Phibes (Dec.)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Jul 2009 06:18:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Worst performance I ever saw at the Music Machine was in the summer of 1977. Boomtown Rats. This dismal piece of panto was enlivened only by a girl rushing on stage from the wings and punching Bob Geldoff hard in the face. Geldoff was as big a tosser then as he is now. Wonder where she is now? About time she came back for another go.

Best gig, the &quot;Cognoscenti Orchestra&quot;, also around the same time in 1977, perhaps earlier?. People turned up in their droves hoping it was a secret gig by the Sex Pistols. Turned out to be The Subway Sect, supported by The Slits. I was far happier with that outcome, having known the line-up in advance. The Sect played with a stage set up to feature a sofa and a standard lamp, like a suburban living room. Brilliant performance, Vic Godard was on fine form, and the guitarist (Robert Simmons?) was one of the best I&#039;ve ever heard.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Worst performance I ever saw at the Music Machine was in the summer of 1977. Boomtown Rats. This dismal piece of panto was enlivened only by a girl rushing on stage from the wings and punching Bob Geldoff hard in the face. Geldoff was as big a tosser then as he is now. Wonder where she is now? About time she came back for another go.</p>
<p>Best gig, the &#8220;Cognoscenti Orchestra&#8221;, also around the same time in 1977, perhaps earlier?. People turned up in their droves hoping it was a secret gig by the Sex Pistols. Turned out to be The Subway Sect, supported by The Slits. I was far happier with that outcome, having known the line-up in advance. The Sect played with a stage set up to feature a sofa and a standard lamp, like a suburban living room. Brilliant performance, Vic Godard was on fine form, and the guitarist (Robert Simmons?) was one of the best I&#8217;ve ever heard.</p>
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		<title>By: Stewart Home posing nude with Michael K &#38; Nicole Black</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stewart Home posing nude with Michael K &#38; Nicole Black</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Jul 2009 03:15:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Threesomes are a groove sensation!</description>
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		<title>By: Michael K posing as Nicole Black</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael K posing as Nicole Black</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Jul 2009 02:13:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Some like it muthafuckin hotta</description>
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		<title>By: Nicole Black posing as Michael K</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nicole Black posing as Michael K</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Jul 2009 02:12:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sting is hot.</description>
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